X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2018) Discussion (1,684 views)

Let's just get this mess over with and kill this universe once and for all.

This looks like a film with X-Men characters in it.

Im with juggernaut fist. This looks boring.

right the trailer definitely reminds me of Apocalypse no fan should want to remember that. Also I feel like they got too complacent with that cast, we really don't need Magneto or Mystique to have such large roles in DPS adaptation. But at least it looks like JLaw finally dies in this one.

right??? and the uniforms quality. yikes.

I suspect Chastain is Cassandra Nova.

I predict that this movie's biggest flaw will be the fact that Jean, Cyclops and the other new characters weren't built up at all in the last movie. Like, I don't care about Sophie Turner as Jean. I don't know Sophie Turner as Jean. What made the original Dark Phoenix Saga the least bit potent was that Jean was an established character that the reader knew, and her relationships with Cyclops ,Xavier, etc were also established and known. Either this movie is going to waste a ton of time showing us their relationships, which I don't see happening, or it's just going to cut that stuff and assume we know what's up, which will make it near impossible to care about the character.

Also, this whole Magneto/Xavier dynamic is so, so stagnant at this point. We've had three movies straight with their relationship as a main focus, and it has ended the same every single time. Enough already. 

DOFP definitely felt like the true end of the FoX-Men and everything after it hasn't felt right. I'm not going to pretend that I really liked the movie, or the FoX-Men in general, but DOFP felt like a satisfactory end for that whole franchise. The old cast had a nice send off with the future being saved and the events of the Last Stand being retconned and the First Class characters had as satisfactory an end as they were going to get. The First Class franchise was, in my opinion, doomed from the start when it was presented as an origin story and not a full reboot. The only thing people seemed to like about it in the first place was the relationship between Xavier and Magneto, which peaked with the airplane scene in DOFP and was just downhill from there. Katniss Darkholme certainly wasn't a character worth expanding on, nor were any of the glorified extras. That's why Apocalypse never made a lot of sense; it just recycled the Magneto/Xavier dynamic, leaned even harder into Katniss Darkholme, and completely failed to build up the new wave of X-Kids for their movie. 

Even Wolverine doesn't feel right. After showing the old cast get a happy ending in DOFP, why crap all over that by revealing that everything went to shit anyways and the X-Men still die tragically? I don't feel  like Hugh Jackman needed a big send-off on his own like that, seeing his version of Wolverine happy with the X-Men felt like a more satisfactory ending for his character arc than having him die more or less alone in a dark future. 

I'm sure Disney doesn't mind though, because the FoX-Men's meandering will probably just make people more receptive to a more by-the-books reboot.