Dragon Ball Discussion Thread (852 views)

I'm going the day after the premiere but I'm not going alone.

Going back tonite. Going to try to stay away from my phone and let myself enjoy it.

Tomorrow.

I was expecting more words.
So I watched it once solo and the next day with a friend and he came to the same conclusion as me, it's good dragonball its fkn beautiful and epic but it dont exactly stay with u? Feels like they were trying to do too much at once.

I rlly liked the flashback stuff. I loved saiyans casually discussing how their life sucks bc of freeza domination but at the same time theyre out here subjugating entire races. I want a prequel spin off thats got nothing to do with goku. I also want to know what happened to those two other saiyans that were with veggie.

I will die for broly he's fuckin perfect and the way his character echoes kid Goku and to a lesser extznt kid Gohan? Brilliant. His friendship with Chelye also was a great callback to Goku/Bulma. I guess making Lemo oolong?

But motivations and themes get a lil confusing and dont exactly hold up. Why was vegeta so offended that broly had a capsule? There were lots of babies in there besides him and paragus had some sort of rank apparently so. Wish saiyan hierarchy was more clearly defined. Paragus seemed genuinely concerned for broly and somewhere along the way that just turned into abuse. I mean, if it was any other show id say ok thats a realistic depiction of how abuse works bc ur parent dont have to hate ur guts to do damage but thats dragonball we re talking abt and dragon ball isnt that deep so I wish we'd seen like a proper scene of broly growing up and how that went. I liked that despite it all he was still very attached to his dad. Again in any other show that would have been fine on its own but im not used to db characters having this much depth and pathos.

I like that beyond being envious of Broly's power Vegeta had another reason for exiling him, makes him look like a competent leader that can see the bigger picture. At the same time it's kinda dumb bc you're literally turning into a slave race like maybe having a weapon of mass destruction isnt such a bad idea. Goes to show u why vegeta didnt have much respect for his father for not having much ambition.

The humor was on point like the parallels between bulma and freeza's wish, goku teasing bulma, freeza's hilarious way of helping broly turn ssj? Priceless. At the same time the plot felt a lil thin. Like freeza could probably have just walked up to goku and told him his wish and the dumbass would have let him have it. Felt the whole thing was just an excuse to have the big fight. And that's where things kinda fell apart a little for me. Just like first broly film, it doesnt look like broly has any proper motivation to fight vegeta or goku. Paragus hates vegeta but broly never voices ressentment over what happened to him he's literally just doing it bc daddy said so and then paragus dies making him go full berzerk and thats not even adressed properly afterwards like.

There was noticeably more emphasis on Broly's mental and emotional state than we're used to in Dragonball and then thats just swept under the rug in favor of flashy action. Also I gotta say watching Broly get his shit wrecked was a lil uncomfortable to watch. And there's a total lack of resolution? Idk cant help feeling if they scrapped gogeta entirely and gave the plot more space to breath we could have gotten something truly special. And I love gogeta but tbh fusion is starting to feel kind of cheap like first of all it's not even a proper character second of all everytime its used they write themselves into a corner bc the result is this uber powerful beast that can't lose or even take damage. Yawn.

Now talking abt the fight itself it was absolute mind blowing breath taking heart stopping up to the point Broly goes SSJ then it's impossible for me to even understand whats happening on the screen. I didnt want to go in there and come out bitching abt cgi but it really ruined a good chunk of the movie for me and I was really excited for SSJ Broly more then full power or whatever so that was a let down. His final transformation? Also disappointing and useless, he was getting his ass handed to him before going there and it made no difference it could have been saved for another story literally. I liked the explicztion abt him being a mutant (and proud!) and the implication that it maybe wasnt so rare bc Vegeta knew abt it. Instead of the boy from the millenia old legend he's an outcast because of a genetic defect. Much better.

Can't wait to see where he shows up next. I would literally watch a spinoff abt him Chelye and Lemo. Really concerned theyre gonna go the fusion route with freeza like enough.

France made Toriyama Knight of the order of arts and letters. Finally one good fucking thing comes out of this hellhole.

Considering the literal crusade french politicians were on against anime at the time im a lil shocked.

Orange. Duh.



I'm so sick of the entire West hemisphere.