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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Nov 28, 2018 19:36:12 GMT
yeeaaaaaah calling this trash might be unnecessarily unfair to trash.
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Post by Filthy Mutie on Nov 29, 2018 2:07:31 GMT
I like the idea of Legion hiding his personalities (if he's even supposed to have them again) in Madrox dupes (for reasons). But, this is falling pretty flatly so far.
Overbearing Jean isn't going well, and the x-kids' whining is a huge weight - I'm reading a lesser version of Messiah CompleX so far.
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Post by Krakoan Flower on Dec 1, 2018 13:54:42 GMT
Conceptually, this issue was nice, but execution falls a flat line.
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Feb 6, 2019 17:22:24 GMT
Can we change the topic title to just UXM discussion? Im not making another thread.
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Post by Kaiolino on Feb 6, 2019 17:28:45 GMT
I thought the issue was good except for the pointless deaths.
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Post by jarrod on Feb 6, 2019 17:32:34 GMT
I thought Ruth's death worked tbh but I enjoyed Hi-Fi taking Rburg to task on twitter.
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Post by Kaiolino on Feb 6, 2019 17:37:39 GMT
Relevant tweetstorm:
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Feb 6, 2019 17:48:17 GMT
Loved: The great synergy between story and art, very moody and desperate. The encounter with the Avengers, who can still to this day fucking choke. Various parts all moving in their own direction. Felt organic.
Didn't care for: Madrox being ooc in his dialogue with Cyclops. I think he's the only one whose voice wasnt right but seeing as I have no respect for PAD or his work or his existence. Whatever. Chamber's attitude towards Cyclops came out of nowhere? I mean no it didn't bc Husk and M and Jubilee just died but. That could have been made clearer. Layla. Ugh. What did Cable mean when he said he was saving Scott's life? Nvm idc.
Hated: Blindfold's death isnt right, I can get over wasti'g a perfectly good charavter but the way it was done was just. Gross. Suicide? Naked in her bathtub? Mmmkay who thought that was a good idea? Callisto??? Let Chamber be in charge of the Morlocks??? At this point 'women cant lead' should just be the franchise tagline. It's so funny how writing gets so much better once the story starts focusing on white men again. U could feel the inspiration on the page.
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Feb 6, 2019 17:51:33 GMT
Lmao at that twitter thread. 'I used to be suicidal but the XMen helped me pull through, so here's a kid killing herself in my first issue'.
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Post by Krakoan Flower on Feb 6, 2019 22:51:11 GMT
I don't know how to ...
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Post by Krakoan Flower on Feb 6, 2019 23:01:01 GMT
Okay. I've processed it.
I'm hurt and pissed.
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Post by Krakoan Flower on Feb 6, 2019 23:14:21 GMT
Can I say surprised? Surprised that she did it? She never struck me as having to have too much to rely on X-Men, even with her blind. She was just a creepy girl who liked to tell scary prophecies. It never occurred to me that she would sink so much in depression after X_men being taken out. Not much after going through so much during Legion's Legacy. She found her inner strength and was walking with her head up. I don't know. She's another suicide story. It feels rude saying it. On conceptual level, it works perfectly: all the copyright X-Men dystopian futures lived in her head, which built up momentum and depression and the end action was no future. On experience level: been there, done that. I feel it. I know it. All possible doomed futures shrink to a point which leaves you thinking there's no future beside that point.
And I'm thinking did she had to be the one to die? Once again one of the younger generation sacrificed at the altar of consequences and stakes for the story to matter and cheap tear milking.
On one hand I''m content she was put to rest, on the other I raise glass for all her wasted potential. Besides, she's an X-man. And they don't stay dead forever.
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Post by salarta on Feb 7, 2019 1:14:53 GMT
I skimmed through Rosenberg's tweets. If Marvel has a main continuous story that heavily addresses trauma for X-Men and mutants and DOESN'T address everything that's happened to Polaris, I am going to have fucking words. This is going to be me. Lorna's been through trauma pretty much her whole existence, and it's been nearly 20 years and Marvel still refuses to acknowledge that Genosha happened to her. I don't care if Rosenberg's writing it as a nod to his own history of depression and mental health issues and X-Men helping him through it. I am not okay with watching a writer reinterpret heavily used popular characters for this purpose while a character who's had almost nothing but trauma never gets at least that much out of all the misuse she's had for the benefit of other characters.
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Post by Kaiolino on Feb 7, 2019 1:22:02 GMT
Do you want Polaris to commit suicide?
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Post by salarta on Feb 7, 2019 1:25:45 GMT
Do you want Polaris to commit suicide? No, but I want what she's been through to be acknowledged and used. I don't think Lorna would ever commit suicide unless it was in some weird way going to save someone else. What I'm getting at is that if trauma as a whole is addressed in its myriad ways on the books, Lorna needs to be part of that given her history.
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