The Magicians Discussion Thread (1,839 views)

As I said in TV discussion thread, I just finished watching season 1-4, and I can't seem to watch the season premiere for season 5 at least yet, so all I can really post is impressions from what I saw of s1-s4.

I suspect that if I had watched the show as it came out, there are various parts in seasons 1-4 that I would've been pissed about. But watching it all at my own pace (which here meant like, less than a week) kept me going and got me into seeing those things get fixes further down the line.

Quentin's death was emotional as fuck. Maybe if I'd had more time to digest between episodes, I would've noticed a trend in building up to his death. I can definitely see it in retrospect. All that work in interrogating Quentin's relationships with Alice and Julia, taking him with Poppy to its natural conclusion AND raising a romance that could've happened with Eliot, Quentin finding out what his magician "thing" is, and the big "Quentin has to revisit his past love of Fillory in light of what it really is and come to terms with it" all should've been huge red flags of getting all his core storylines out of the way for his death. Especially since it's so strange how little the show went into the impact of Eliot's possession or original Penny being down in the library.

Julia losing her powers and then it sounds like getting Quentin's seems kinda strange. Without having seen any season 5 stuff, I suspect it was the show making moves toward making her into a "replacement Quentin" since she's the next closest thing of who's left on the show. But it just feels weird, like they're planning to ignore who her character is that they've built up over 4 seasons in favor of turning her into his character.

I liked the episode where they had a whole sequence in the POV of Harriet, no sound, just visuals. It's a little reminiscent of that BtVS episode where no characters could talk, only with real world purpose to it.

Oh, and how readily season 1 jumped into sex was a little disappointing for me. I had an idea for a porn fic at one scene and then all the sex/nudity content killed the interest cause it was like "Oh, okay, they probably really would do that now."

I'd say my favorite dumbass on the show is Marina, followed by Poppy. Maybe Fen after that. I would've liked to see original Marina return instead of using an alt timeline Marina.

Last post I'm making and if there's no other discussion then I'm not makin more posts.

A few more of the positive things that I neglected to mention before. I LOVED the episode Fillorian Candidate in season 3 specifically. Between a rabbit repeatedly saying "eat my ass" and Eliot proudly telling his fake-daughter how happy he is to say what he wished his father said to him ("I'm so happy you're dating a bear"), it was gold. When we first found out Marina was leader of the hedge witches, I felt that was a good twist. They did a good job of concealing her actual status. I also liked how threatening The Beast seemed in the beginning; had shades of Sylar from Heroes.

Margo as a whole develops into a really interesting character across the seasons. In season 1 both her and Eliot seemed pretty bland, but then Margo starts showing off so much attitude and she pairs it with being crass yet sympathetic. I honestly can't think of any other female fictional characters like her. Much needed. Also it's strange how the fairies seem to just completely drop off the face of the show after the fairy queen's death.

Now for recent episode stuff.

Speaking of the werewolf stuff, I feel like it was just completely forgotten. Like it happened, and now nobody remembers they're supposed to be.

Sounds like the showrunners were complete assholes about how they handled Quentin's death with the cast. You'd at least expect them to keep Hale in the loop given the importance of their scene.

I was avoiding watching new episodes because I was trying to write a porn fic of the show, but I'm having so much trouble getting myself into the mood of finishing it (edits + any additions I wanna make along the way) that I got caught up on the show tonight.

I see what you did there, Lycaon.

*slams fists through table* THIS WEEK'S EPISODES WERE SO GOOD I'M KIND OF ANGRY, BUT IN A GOOD WAY, OBVIOUSLY.

I have a lot of thoughts but I can't be bothered to type them right now.

Came off of 5.05 thinking, "Damn, that was pretty great!" and did not expect them to up the ante but I lost my mind like 14 times during 5.06 even having had a key plot point in it spoiled for me. And I normally hate

I want to talk about the finale (which for those unaware is the series finale; SyFy cancelled it last month and while the writers did try making it a decent series finale in case that happened, they were still looking to get a S6 at the time).

It was pretty good, considering. People who are pissed about it were going to be no matter what happened and the acting like they don't know certain things weren't fully wrapped up because it was cancelled is annoying the fuck out of me.



Besides the fact I'm just generally going to miss the characters, I'm mostly upset we won't get any resolution to Cassandra looking like Alice now. I thought for a second we might get something on that front when she was mentioned, but no.

Apparently SyFy has never let a show go more than five seasons.

Showrunners already tried finding a home elsewhere before the cancellation was made public, but I think that was a mistake. Most people who might have campaigned to get it picked up didn't even bother because they were being told it was pointless from the beginning.