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Imagine sounding like patrix

I rlly can't. Imagine. We respect all of our minorities here. We also never invade and kill ppl in other coutnries. #teamgoodguys

Rofl who are you even talking about? First off, you're just being willfully ignorant if you think that anyone around here thinks Putin is a swell fella. Second, what, do you think that Putin is some kind of avatar for the russian hivemind? If not, why refer to the russians as the "bad guys"? Bad guys of what, this isn't a movie. If you're going to make some kind of moral judgement the least you could do is be consisent in who you consider "bad" instead of bringing up the tired realpolitik argument that great powers will inevitably do bad things, only to then declare that one great power is worse than another when you'd have to have never opened up a book or turned on a tv to know that Russa isn't the great power that has done the most "bad stuff" when it comes to international politics in the last 100 years.  

Oh please, do you even hear how ridiculous you sound? I guess that means you're okay with openly invading way, way more countries, institutionalized racism, slave labour and murdering innocent children. 

Calm down or this thread is getting closed.

I'm not sure how you're getting a devil's advocate argument from this because that's not what I*m trying to put forward at all. I've stated repeatedly that Russia's involvement in the american election is indefensible. What I'm saying is that I don't think that the nation of Russia can be considered the bad guy in this scenario, when we all seem to agree on the fact that America ain't shit, Russia ain't shit, and that these nations will do terrible things to ensure their own continued dominance. If America continually interefers with Russia, and Russia continually interferes with the U.S., then why would Russia be considered the bad guy and the U.S. the good guy when the bottom line is that they're both awful and are racing to fuck each other over? 


The bad guy in this scenario as far as I'm concerned is Trump, for colluding with outside forces to manipulate the results of a democratic election. If we have established the fact that great powers interfering with other countries to protect their own interests is the norm, and that the U.S. is as guilty of it as Russia, then I don't see how it's anything other than hypocrticial to declare that Russia is bad and that the U.S. is good. 

I second this.