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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Mar 26, 2018 20:22:26 GMT
I do agree that the argument we was in was dumb since the whole point of this red scare 2.0 is to silence all criticism of america with 'now u just a russian supporter' and lo and behold. Anyway.
I fuckin hate France so much.
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Post by juggernautpunch on Mar 26, 2018 20:25:39 GMT
What's new in France?
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Post by Lycaon pictus on Mar 28, 2018 1:53:17 GMT
Good Lord, I look away for a day and this thread balloons to 3 pages!
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Mar 29, 2018 20:25:59 GMT
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Post by patrix on Mar 31, 2018 19:46:14 GMT
Sweetdumbass, my opinions are at least honest. I don't lie, I say what I feel. If it's not polite, then I am sorry. But I explain the world the way I see it. And the way I see it, USA is fucked beyond belief. But it's not trump. It's your society that hates each other, instead of respecting each other. What happened to the "I disagree with you, but I will fight for your right to speech"?
Actually, I only wanted to say that I like that you don't like Russia. For decades Poland was russianophobe, because we blamed everything on russia. It's good to see that USA finally catches-up and understands who is the big bad. Every "stupid" rumor you hear about russia is true. They actually employ people to shitpost and stir shit in social media. Russians might be poor and eat toilet paper, but the oligarchs are strong and have money. Instead of banning diplomats, block their swiss accounts and do a takeover of their money. NOW THAT WOULD WORK.
In regards to your current president, you had worse, like Jimmy Carter. And you survived Bush, so it's not going to be worse. And in regards to minorities, USA is a third world for minorities. My grandma was a maid in chicago. She was an illegal immigrant, she ended up in prison, and sadly, she was sent back to us, and we had to take care of her. She did have a pension from US government, which is kinda... funny how your law works. She was a pain in the ass, so I'm not happy that she was sent back. Albeit it might have been a reason why she was sent back. The law was very lenient, because she was sent back to Poland for over 10 years, until she was finally delivered.
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Post by Lycaon pictus on Mar 31, 2018 21:06:58 GMT
Well, I meant to edit a bunch of responses into that other post, but I've been busy. Still am in fact. So I'll start with saying I was originially going to say the Parkland kids are LITERAL CHILDREN who recently lived through trauma, so I'm not keen on dinging them for not having astute policy prescriptions for all of society. I'm glad they've organizing, but all the "children will lead us" hoopla is foolish. They're kids. I don't mean that to be condescending at all. Most adults--particularly the ones charged with making laws--have a lot of trouble with ways to deal with this issue. I wouldn't be surprised if they said something like about 'mental illness' because that's what every single adult talks about every time, and in this case they did report the shooter and nothing was done about him. I was going to say pillorying a bunch of kids for not having the most apt, nuanced framework for dealing with an entrenched issue of violence is incredibly unfair. Particularly with all that these kids have done. That's what I was going to say. Instead I'll say the calls for increased police presence and mental health registry and whatnot DID NOT EVEN COME FROM THESE KIDS. They're from an article from The Guardian where they asked 10 students from the MSD high school newspaper, Eagle Eye, to write an article for the website. (article can be found here: www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2018/mar/23/parkland-students-manifesto-americas-gun-laws) These students are not the ones who have been leading the march or the ones who have been seen speaking out to the media recently. The March for Our Lives petition/website does not include these suggestions. As for the article you just posted sda, I'm not surprised that there are a bunch of cops at the school just after a shooting. Especially when right-wingers are spinning conspiracy theories about the kids and sending them death threats. Especially not with such a huge public profile. Having gone to school in the US, I can tell you pretty much every public middle and highschool has at least 1 cop in it. The larger ones probably have more than 1, so it's unfortunately not out of the ordinary. I can also say I've been beyond pleased with how these kids have conducted themselves in the public eye. They've credited black lives matter, literally said that they're getting as far as they are because they're white and from an affluent neighborhood, and at the March for Our Lives there were SEVERAL children of color talking about the violence they've had to deal with with far less media attention. Every time I've seen one of the Parkland kids on a big news interview, they've made sure to say that mass shootings like theirs are rare compared to suicides, domestic violence, police violence, and violence in poor communities. I'll tackle that russia nonsense next time I get a chance, because the way ppl on tumblr are reacting to this is just fucking ignorant. Like, honestly fucking ignorant. You know Russia literally hacked our energy grid, right? And the Trump admin has done nothing about it? Literally forced the institutions that would be trying to fix the problem to ignore it? Like WTF.
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Post by patrix on Mar 31, 2018 21:26:15 GMT
TBH, I don't know what you are specifically talking about, but I agree with you, because you sound like a truth. I promise I will read more about it.
Also, Russia is evil, nevar forget. I like joking, and I like to exaggerate, but not this time. It's not a strawmanship. They have resources, they have money to waste, and yes, they LOVE doing it. Their mentality is like that "let's starts some shit, and let them have doubts - did we do it, or did we not? let's DIVIDE AND CONQUER". So yes, Russians love mindfucks, and they love starting shit, because anytime they can divide and conquer, is the time where they win. Don't let yourselves be divided. You can disagree, but NO physical violence!!!
Their point is, they want you to doubt yourselves, and they want you to double-check yourselves with every decision you make, so you will be slower and ineffectual, and get into a paranoia. Don't fall into their trap! As cliche as it sounds, what you should do, is to calm down the situations. I don't want to point the fingers, but the problem started with Obama, when he okayed the mess in Syria. Just saying. What you have to do is to stand as one. No divisions, strike as one, and punch them in the face as one.
I don't want to defend trumper, but he damaged russia much more than obama did, or hillary would. Hillary was literally in the pocket of Putin and it pains me that you folks don't see it.
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Post by patrix on Mar 31, 2018 21:36:09 GMT
I don't live in USA, so I don't know how it really is. But in Poland, you have black students from Nigeria, Rhodesia (I don't like South Africa as a name), and US, and there are literally never any problems, these people are not only accepted, but are fully assimilated, while apparently, we are considered "more racist" than US, according to official stats. Most of them are doctors. I never asked them why they stayed here, they just live here, and are happy. Seriously, it's weird. Police should be presented because they are supposed to serve and protect. If there is no trust in Police, then something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Maybe US should do something so the citizens would believe in police again. And seriously, our police are literally communist leftovers, and they do a good job and we trust them, while your police is corrupted, then something is weird. ALBEIT, we have more restrict gun laws, which is a shame, because we should be able to defend ourselves from russians and germans
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Post by Nen Wyatt on Apr 1, 2018 1:51:42 GMT
TBH I never know what you are talking about, but I disagree with you.
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Post by juggernautpunch on Apr 1, 2018 13:20:23 GMT
Having gone to school in the US, I can tell you pretty much every public middle and highschool has at least 1 cop in it. The larger ones probably have more than 1, so it's unfortunately not out of the ordinary. Sheesh, that's crazy. I'm 23 years old and I've literally only ever seen a police officer when they're talking to drunks at the bus station. Our schools never even had guards or anything.
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Apr 14, 2018 18:57:47 GMT
Ariana was really ahead of her time when she said she hated america.
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Post by patrix on Apr 15, 2018 14:54:18 GMT
TBH I never know what you are talking about, but I disagree with you. As long as we respect each other it's okay. We can be Magneto and Chuck. I always believe in a firm response. I don't like Trump, but I'm okay with what he did. I don't like zionists, but I think that everything that happened will be for the better. I am however, concerned, because ultimately, it will be children, who will be killed in that war. And this is something I would prefer to not be swept under the rug.
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Post by patrix on Apr 15, 2018 16:06:24 GMT
Also, you want to talk about politics? Fine, I will tell you politics. I am partially jewish, but I am Polish. My family died to save the jewish part. My grandgrandmother went to Birkenau, because Germans confused her with her sister. Ha ha, funny, if it wasn't so sad. Ironically, my grandgrandmother survived, while her sister died (the one who escaped). Nazis accidentally saved my grandgrandmother, oh lord, I want to kill myself when I type that. My catholic part is nowadays considered Nazis, because they didn't save enough of the jewish part. We are "worse than nazis, because we only saved 3 jews, while we could save 5 jews". This is a fucking Israeli logic, I can't believe what the fuck I'm even typing, I wish it was a fucking joke, because otherwise my brain would shut down. My jewish side spits on my face, because I am on the part that converted to catholic side. It doesn't matter who I am, I am not jewish, because my grandma converted to Catholicism. She was tired of the bullshit, so she converted, but she is treated like a leper, like she was never a part of the family.
Hey, do you want to know another story? The brother of my grandpa died because someone threw a grenade to the bunker while he was lecturing the plans to attack nazis to the young soldiers. 2 weeks later, the war ended. Consider the following, the war is ending, everyone is happy, and my grandparents instead of being happy, get a coffin with their eldest son lying there. Everyone is happy that the war is over, while my grandparents cry that their son died. Peachy, isn't it? I lost 80% of my family, I had a mansion, I had a name, I had everything, and everything I lost. After war, we had nothing, we had to rebuild everything from scratch.
I love Poland. I would never want to move everywhere else. Meanwhile, Israel is bullying Poland. And suddenly everyone see me as enemy, because ultimately, it doesn't matter who I want to be. The blood, it's all that matters.
I hate this world, because it's full of lies. It's a world where a person abuses other person because of the money. I want a different world. I want a world, where someone, who has a talent, is respected. Where are you, oh "god"? You see nothing, you do nothing, you are nothing. You kill people, like they were numbers. I hate you "god", oh so called "father". You are not my father.
You desperately want to believe in something. You desperately want to believe in justice, fairness, kindness, but it doesn't exist. Everything you see belongs to evil. Your thoughts, your goodness, your intentions, are all appropriated by evil. Does it hurt to see your ideas being used for evil? Never for anything good? You are not yourselves. Your urges, your wishes, your dreams, your lives belong to satan, and therefore you are always unhappy. You cannot see a human being in another person, you only see an enemy. Nothing really matters, we are all alien. We don't know ourselves, we don't respect ourselves. We are tools to divide each others by social status, by sexuality, by the color of the skin, by everything that can be used to divide people, and humankind takes it, it swallows it, like a child swallowing a bottle with a milk. It will never be satiated, it will always be longing. Do you enjoy it? Do you enjoy being a pawn? So some senator can have some money? Do you like your outrage? Is that outrage genuine? How many poor people do you cross every day? What did you do to help them? Hey, I am not the one who pretends to give a fuck about poor people. I am morally decayed, it's you who pretend to have a higher ground. It's you, who think that you make the world better by arguing with idiots on the internet. That you fight some "cause". Meanwhile, children starve silently. There is no god.
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Post by Obi-Wan Nenobi on Apr 28, 2018 16:42:00 GMT
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Post by patrix on Apr 28, 2018 18:27:37 GMT
You can start with not posting retarded shit. People suffer, people die, but for you, it's only a statistic. I can be The Asshole with massive The, but I care about the people, unlike you. I might suck at typing, but I never lie. I only post the truth. Unlike you, it's not a game, it's people being murdered for no reason. Not that you would get it. Ever. You give a fuck about whether your scarf is politically correct. You don't care about the children that died for being children., because politics didn't help them survive ha ha. We will celebrate it. A massive win. Yay! Haha, oh hai mark! I did not hit her, it's bullshit I did not hit her I did nawt. You are tearing me apart.
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