Let's read together: X-Men - The Bad Old Days? (6,051 views)

R u gonna read it? I miss Pulse but Milligna and Larrocca were exhausting. Idk idk

Decimation: Generation-M #2



Cops werent portrayed badly enough so this gets negative points for me.
The art is so expressive im in love.
Did Zayn get inspired by Salie Floyd's writing when he wrote Satisfaction?



StacyX was the best mutant of the 00s bar NONE.
Did she pay her with coins ashfhfjsj cheap bitch
Wow Jubilee sounding like an actual person and not an annoying cliché.
Did ppl bitch abt sallie at the time? She's a flawed compromised female character did they call her a feminazi? Were there calls to boycott the books? Im surprised how good jenkins is with this considering prelude to schism was garbage that we probably shouldnt read but probably will.
I really love the notion of mutants developping their own sports its a throwaway line but it opens up so many possibilities Quesada RUINED US.
Is that a shot at Bill Jemas?
Rmbr when tony was an alcoholic?
That cliffhanger was predictable.

Decimation: Generation M #03



Wait why did she turn into an asshole all of a sudden?
Sum more insight into Blob state of mind for u salarta



I guess this issue was whatever. I like watching Sally come to terms with her grief as the world comes to term with its own. But for a depressive alcoholic she's too functional.

Decimation: Generation M #05

What was even the deal with Angel?
Ooookay the daughter was a mutant? But come on she was pal with jubilee and Dani she could have gotten Beast or Forge to come up with sthg. Moira would have never let this happen.
This is making me anxious abt having children.
I just realized the whole point is had she survived the next six months she probably would have been depowered. Why r u doing this to me.
Ok she just spelled it out.
Ok then my Angel question is answered.
Ghoul is just a Morrisson reject. Not particularly interesting one.
Ok thats it im shipping them.
Hank pym's gf fzgzgahejfje plz bring this girl back.

I'm this close to adding every sally floyd comics to the list or starting a new thread. This was everything tho in the end it was more her story then any of the depowered mutants. I would have preferred if everyone who cameoed to show up and save the day in the end, the X-Men served no purpose and were badly written.

Oh I've been attacked like a bajillion times before, I didn't read it as one.

On the one hand, you do raise several very good points about how a person might react when something integral to their identity is taken away from them. This is something I've pointed out multiple times before, about how Lorna almost let herself get killed by a Sentinel thinking it would reawaken her powers. On the other hand, I don't feel like Blob would be the type whose immediate response is "I gotta kill myself." Maybe I'm wrong and that fits him perfectly, but it's not how I imagine him at least.

More importantly, the story doesn't really get across very well (at least to me) what his actual thought process was. Is it cause he lost his powers? Is it cause he's vain and hates the new way he looks? It doesn't give enough details to fully understand his POV. We get that info from a later book by a different writer (as you posted), but we don't get it in The Day After, which is where my criticism lies.

On female characters, in sum I saw a disparity in how much women were depicted one way vs how much men were depicted another. Men tended to be in overall superior or isolated scenarios, women tended to be in supportive or subordinate scenarios. There were a few exceptions, but that was the general dynamic as I saw it.

And that's all I'll say on it!

X-Men #177

- Ah, this was when Larroca's art was still somewhat tolerable, but you can see he's just about ready to become a shitty tracer
- Polaris running around the field powerless is a comical sight
- Hellion being slapped out of the sky made me Team Sentinel
- The Leper Queen iirc was one of the more memorable human adversaries
- Why did none of the people in the Sentinel open their fucking cockpit and explain the situation
- Whoa it's Val Cooper! Shocking!
- Anyway, I'm glad her history with Popo is acknowledged

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X-Men #178

- I love how lazy Rogue's hair coloring is
- lmao Havok LOSING IT over his treatment by Cyclops
- This dude is either mad that Scott is treating him like a child or that he's treated like a soldier
- They couldn't even get non-shitty people to handle this incredibly precarious sentinel job but I guess that makes it like ~the real world~
- The cutaways to setting up Apocalypse are annoying
- The idea that the X-Men couldn't handle a bunch of humans with guns seems a little forced, especially since so few of the actual X-Men were actually depowered
- Iceman gets his powers back, ruining that scene from House of M
- I think it's been widely theorized (including by I think Filthy Mutie) that they quickly reversed the decision to depower Iceman and that's why this bizarrely quick turnaround was done despite Iceman's depowering being a huge moment like Wolverine regaining his memory

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X-Men #179

- Oh hey it's Outlaw
- If I were reading in order, I would comment on how well characters introduced in one book segue into other books as if there's actually one grand universe rather than a series of standalone books that seem to be permanently at odds with one another
- I'm glad that weirdly colored Iceman from last issue wasn't permanent
- Havok: "You gotta admit, that racist murder robot has some cool tricks!"
- So much running around in this arc and I'm not sure if Larroca meant for it to look so funny
- A comment about freedom vs. security can only mean this comic came about during the age of Dubya
- Mystique trying to meddle in Rogue's love life, entertaining as it may be, was the beginning of the end for her
- Remember when Pulse was in The Gifted?
- "Et moi"? Wouldn't it be "Moi, aussi"? I'm reasonably sure Babelfish in 2005/2006 did better translations considering regularly used it back then
- This is all one giant metaphor for Iceman being a closet case
- Both Havok and Iceman are at their most intolerable here
- Would I sacrifice Popo if it meant Havok went with her? Yes. Yes, I would

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Arc conclusion

There are two camps when it comes to Milligan's X-Men run. Those who think it's one of the worst runs of the '00s and those who think it's a masterpiece and the only book that came close to matching Morrison. Me, I'm boring and think his run is utterly generic and this arc shows why. It's all competent and the voices aren't ooc (though god are Iceman and Havok at their most broski in this) but nothing really happens except characters incompetently running around. Iceman's depowering and repowering were pointless and Polaris hiding her depowering was also a bit silly (especially since everyone knew).